I am sure he wasn't likening his elect to the fallen angels. Family Law around the world needs serious reform. 1:7; Heb. 15.7     Angels not marrying or being given in marriage (cf. The book is claimed by some to have been written by Enoch, but it is aproxiamtely dated between the 2nd century BC and the first century AD. At least that is the pattern for the New Testament. Someone pointed out that angels, Do Not Marry!! Or remain silent and become a miserable worm. Indeed, nothing in the New Testament would indicate that they ever questioned its genuineness or its integrity. 108.7 “written…that the angels may read them” (cf. <–Again, conflicting times/language anachronism: whereas all OT scriptures recovered and recorded pre-NT are in Hebrew, the Apocryphal books and this book of Enoch are in a somewhat contemporary language. Some people are of the view that the book is authentic because Jesus while on earth literally said things that pointed directly from the book. Matthew 6:19-20 – “store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust consumes and where thieves do not break in and steal.” James 5:3 – Your gold and silver have rusted, and their rust will be evidence against you, and it will eat your flesh like fire. That means that Satan Cannot be an angel, neither the demons, ^_^. For the benefit of those who have not yet read 1 Enoch, a brief description of the text seems apropos considering that 1 Enoch’s 108 chapters might lead one to think that it is a much larger volume than it is — actually about 1100 verses divided into five sections (or books). 1st Enoch 15 quotes; the “Lord of spirits” declares that because the angels are everlasting, they have not been appointed wives. A parable is like solving a riddle it requires a spirit of discernment. Written of beforehand? Phil. The Book of Enoch narrates Enoch’s travels off Earth, supernatural and heavenly places inaccessible to other human beings! Quote: Originally Posted by HistorianDude I love Enoch. I think the real question here is “Who are the Nephilim”? The book of Enoch has never been part of the Jewish scriptures but it is considered to be canon by the Ethiopian Orthodox Church, which uniquely, includes the book in their Bible. 62.5 “when they see the Son of Man sitting on the throne of his glory” (Mt. Where does it ever say ppl have wings??? The prophets in the bible saw angels with wings only in dreams or visions, and used the word wings parabolically. trains bank personnel to recognize counterfeit money, they never actually see or handle counterfeit money — just the real thing. 25:31). The Book of Enoch This topic has 279 replies, 49 voices, and was last updated. Ok, an interesting thing about what the writter of jude writes, Im not sure if its in what we are calling “the book of enoch” Angels that SiN, are held in Everlasting chains Untill Judgment day. Indeed, there was hardly anyone who had not read 1 Enoch at the time of Christ. While the Bible is clearly a flat earth book, Enoch is the book that lays out the flat earth cosmology of the bible in the most detail. I came across an article which claims that Jesus quoted, or at least referenced, the pseudepigraphical Book of Enoch in the New Testament. Below are some of Jesus’ quotes from the New Testament and their linkages to the book of Enoch. Heb. Simple, someone could have rewritten the book of Enoch, taking true parts and mixing it with many lies. But if Jesus is liking us to Angels who do not marry, then surely he is referring to the Elect Angels as his reference was to his elect on earth. 10.7     “the healing of the earth” (cf. Part of the problem is purely logistical: Bible bookstores do not stock copies of 1 Enoch; translations with critical notes are expensive; and many Christians do not know where to order a copy. If you are reasonably articulate, start talking! Jesus spoke in parables and quoted the Old Testament. In closing, we will list a few of the more significant statements in 1 Enoch which have close parallels in the New Testament writings. Many christians imagen vain things about what scripture says. I simply used the information presented by Daniel to construct a logical hypothesis: 1. So was Jesus when He called Himself the Son of Man, ... No, the book of Enoch is not Scripture. Hebrews 13:2Do not forget to entertain strangers, for by so doing some people have entertained angels without knowing it. While in the past it was taboo to have one parent in a family, today it almost seems encouraged. ?Why would god make ppl see wings on angels if they dont exist on angels – vision or no vision they are still there. People do not literally have wings. God said let us make man in our image. And no surprises that all these ‘ists’ just happen to be anti-God. If you say that wings are just nothing, even if you see them- Thats just plain ignorant. The Encyclopedic Dictionary of Judaica has this to say about such books: “Pseudepigraphical books … are not accepted in their entirety by any church, only individual books being considered sacred by the Eastern churches, particularly the Ethiopian. You are saying literally , 'son of GoD' means man. Copies of 1 Enoch soon disappeared, and were it not for the fact that a number of copies have since been discovered and translated, we would have no knowledge of 1 Enoch outside of the references made to it in the Book of Jubilees, the Testament of the Twelve Patriarchs, and in the writings of the Apostolic Fathers (many of whom regarded 1 Enoch as Scripture: i.e. 1. Your being to literal, perhaps you should look up the word (PARABLE). Virtually all the books considered over time to be apocryphal (by both Catholics and Protestants) can be expected to contain at least some truth in them. While the giants are destroyed by the flood, evil spirits proceeding from their bodies are permitted to have free rein over the surface of the earth until the final judgment, at which time they would be destroyed along with the angels (15.7-16.2). The other part has to do with their teachings — through which the entire race of men became corrupted: Semjaza taught enchantments, Armaros the resolving of enchantments, Baraqijal astrology, Kokabel the constellations…. Revelation). Your quote "First, it should be noted that Jude is quoting Enoch himself, not from a book of Enoch". Language, age etc. Jesus answered them and said that they err in their question because they do not know the Scriptures, he proceeded to explain that angels do not marry. 48.3     “those who have fallen asleep in righteousness”; 48.5 “All…shall fall down and worship him”; 48.6     “chosen hidden before Him before the creation of the world”; 48.6     “in his name they are saved…according to his good pleasure”; 50.3a     “through his name shall they be saved”; 50.3b     “all the secrets of wisdom and counsel… the Lord of Spirits hath given to him”. It is interesting that when the F.B.I. Joined: Feb 21, 2002 Messages: 11,898 Likes Received: 4. The Bible notes that he was translated but gives no details of his ministry. Enoch’s relationship to the angels that sinned is that of a messenger (cf. That is a Jewish book written about 300 B.C. (John 14:2): In my Father’s house are many mansions. 62.4 “as on a woman in travail” (cf. Luke 24:4While they were perplexed about this, behold, two men suddenly stood near them in dazzling clothing; John 20:12and she saw two angels in white sitting, one at the head and one at the feet, where the body of Jesus had been lying. Making sure that the included the writings of bible writers. 16:20). ^^;; I guess you dont even need to egknowledge angels exist. So perhaps these fallen angels were able to take on human form. The impressive and fantastic Book of Enoch is one of the most important ancient texts , unfortunately it was excluded from the Bible .. Rev. In short, it was suppressed. Should there be a recount if it is close? In other words, it cannot be consistently maintained that Jude’s believing 1 Enoch to be authoritative was an isolated case among the first century Christians. Given that it was writtend in Aramaic, and found c. AD 200, when Enoch lived somewhere between 3000 and 4000 BC, the language it was written in testifies that it was not written by Enoch. Even as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities about them…in like manner…are set forth as examples…. First of all, it indicates that Christians were familiar with 1 Enoch; second, it shows that Christians regarded the contents of 1 Enoch as historically reliable. 4:1; 2 Tim. Most people think it is a quote, namely, from 1 Enoch. The book of Enoch was written about 167BC by a unknown prophet. 2:5). 1:12). Sons of GoD, could be men, or other beings, It may be suggesting other beings, But then GoDs punishment, and reason as to why he will destroy the inhabitance of the earth is because of Men. There are some corruptions in the text, but they have been marked as such. (Jude 5-7). Of course we know that Fallen Angels rebelled against God in many ways and taking wives from men appears to be one of their sins. He cometh with ten thousands of His holy ones to execute judgment upon all, and to destroy all the ungodly; and to convict all flesh of all the works of their ungodliness which they have ungodly committed, and of all the hard things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him. 103.8 “the great judgment shall be for all the generations of the world” (cf. We believe these need much closer examination in the interests of not only seeing the intertestamental background of the New Testament writings, but to help understand the preterist view as well. These men appear to have been quite familiar with 1 Enoch. 71.15 “the world to come” (cf. Until Laurence published his English translation of 1 Enoch in 1821, hardly anyone had ever heard of the Book of Enoch. share. Perhaps they have the ability to take on a human body, in similar fashion that men wear a space suits in space. The Catholic church determined that the book of Enoch was to reveiling and it should no longer be used. Sent by God to the angels who had already been cast into darkness, Enoch is told to preach unto these imprisoned spirits their doom. There is debate whether or not Jude was actually quoting the apocraphal book of Enoch or something else. 96:1 “suddenly shall the sinners perish before you” (cf. The words (messenger-s of God) is translated, angel. Jesus quotes book of enoch, I came across an article which claims that Jesus quoted, or at least referenced, the pseudepigraphical Book of Enoch in the New Testament. 3:18-20). 4 comments. 1 Tim. Because it could not be made to fit their idea that Christ’s coming had not yet been fulfilled. Otherwise you would just walk through walls and emanate light if you were not subject to physical laws such as electromagnetism. To what extent other New Testament writers regarded 1 Enoch as Scripture may be determined by comparing their writings with those found in 1 Enoch. 12.1 “the great glory sat…more brightly than the sun…no flesh could behold him” (cf. The reason why satan isnt doing it Because he cant- and wouldnt be in the position he is if he was once an angels, because he'd be bound with everlasting chains. 14:20). That 1 Enoch was written at least one-hundred years before Christ seems indicated (among other things) by numerous references to it contained in the Book of Jubilees. Enoch is also given to see all that is contained in the holy books (91.2; 103.2; 106.19), about which he is instructed to teach to his son (Methuselah) and also to write everything that had been revealed to him in a book, a book addressed to a righteous generation that should rise up in the last days, prior to the consummation of the age (82.1; 38.1). 91.3-4 The “double heart” (cf. 1:2). You need a man to teach you to be a man and daughters need a father to learn what men are like. And very slim evidence to suggest, 'sons of God' were angels. Jesus said GoD called People 'Sons Of GoD'. The Aramaic language used would  indicate an authorship sometime in the 2nd or 3rd century B.C. Hence, “be hopeful ye that have died in righteousness” (102.4). What can be gained from studying 1 Enoch has not been adequately communicated, even among those who stress the importance of reconstructing the life and times of Jesus (i.e. Can this boy or girl probability paradox be resolved? Many “christians” scoff and deny the book of Enoch … If you decide to read these books, you may read them as an interesting novel containing interesting stories from history. But all the righteous would be delivered. Also I saw a documentary on the Dead Sea Scrolls and they mentioned they found about 8 copies of the Book of Enoch. 2:3). Col. 2:3; John 4). 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